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by josh on Sat May 29, 2010 4:03 pm

I thought it would be a good thing to start a new thread with the plaster, it may grow out the welcome post.

Anyone desiring to look at the beginning of the plaster may go to the welcome thread.




Today, I ran some experiments with what I call the Orgonite plus (some of you have pendants made of it) versus a same shape pendant made with plaster, crushed crystals and a pinch of copper powder, (for real may be half of 1/8 of a teaspoon), I wanted same size and shape to make an honest comparison.



The people doing the testing were 6 women, all of them healers, energy workers, massage therapists two homeopathic doctors. 

They did not get to look at the devices, these were put in each hand and the question to them was: "what do you feel from one versus the other as far as life energy".

I did this without having the ladies communicating between each other, so they did not hear any of the comments that was made.

All of them felt the resin Orgonite within a few seconds as an electrical energy, some said strong energy.

After a few more seconds, there was a raising of the eye brows and a new awareness coming to consciousness: they started feeling the plaster: " higher vibrations, in tune with the 4 upper chakras, open like a sun and vibrate in all directions"

The resin Orgonite was more in tune with the 3 lower chakras, a much more grounding sensation.

The power coming out of both were strong , initially the resin made itself known first, but in a very short time they had difficulty choosing one or the other (two chose the plaster though) and the final choice was based on individual need of grounding or desiring more energy or a connection with the subtle energy of the pendant.



All of those beautiful ladies were gathered for an Native American Ceremony. 



So here we are, two different compounds, two different energies, one strong upfront, the other needing to be " discovered" and both extremely valid as energetic,life energy devices.

If you haven' t gone on the link I gave you to learn more about the plaster devices, please do so, make your own, it is very simple and we can share more about it on this forum.

Josh

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by josh on Sat May 29, 2010 4:27 pm

Here is the link:





This is the original site : http://www.energiekegel.de/ 



Between what we have been told in our home, and this latest experiment, my lady and I feel (and she has been pushing for the plaster  ) that this "plasterite" might be the next generation of devices more in tune with the new higher energies. 

The cost is minimal, and it can be a whole safe and fun family project.

And ,with dowsing, we have discovered that there is no need to crush the crystals, that tumbled stones are plenty good, but they should be as small as possible ( as for making jewelry.

Have fun

Josh

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by josh on Sun May 30, 2010 9:26 am

Also since we can affect the grid and obtain a better looking sky by wrapping a electric cord around the device, we no longer have to put them outside, we can do it from the comfort of our living room, having a cup of hot chocolate

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by nepipemi on Sun May 30, 2010 10:23 am

There has been a question raised about the "plasterite" being a collector instead of a transmuter of DOR. 




Just a few days ago, I read that "after they recieved a tip", someone smashed a plaster piece they had bought a while ago because he said it was a scam or something like that. I don't know where he got the "tip".



Do you have any info that could shed light on this subject? The plaster would be way cool, cheap and easy to make but it seems that it is getting a bad rap. Does it indeed transmute or just a DOR collector?



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by josh on Sun May 30, 2010 11:35 am

Nepi I have had plaster Orgonite in my home as well as other families that I have made pieces for, if there was any collecting of DOR from those pieces I would have been told since I see those folks all the time and they are quite sensitive energy wise.

Another factor in the shooting down of the plaster is also the amount of business a whole lot of people would be loosing, the plaster means "self reliance" 

, it means all of us can do it, the children can have fun with it an create new combination, powerful combination that we have not thought of and the kids are not allowed to have because they are too young to play with a dangerous substance such as the resin and the sharp metal shavings.

There no mystery about the plaster it is simple to make and to obtain. 

Make a broadcaster with plaster and "bless" the grid and see how it feel, see how much blue sky you are able to have  

Good luck

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by nepipemi on Sun May 30, 2010 12:32 pm

Thanks Josh, Ok, then, how do you make it so that I can try it for myself? Do I just the plaster from the craft store? Should there be metal in it, and if so, how much? How many crystals?




THanks!

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by josh on Sun May 30, 2010 12:59 pm

Nepi get the regular plaster of Paris from Lows or Home Depot, get the stones from a bead store, it is good if they are small like the kind you would use on a bracelet , make the plaster with a little more water than the called for proportion (2 plaster and 1 water) put 1/3 of the plaster in the mold, put in some stones, another third, a bit more stones, and the rest with all the stones left.

Use in it a little oxides that you have, chromium oxides, copper powder, or copper sulfate, the copper powder After a week of the plaster drying, you can paint it with some shellac at that point your device will be turning a wonderful shade of light green.

More to come

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by nepipemi on Sun May 30, 2010 1:14 pm

Thank you for those instructions. 




I've been pondering it still and wondering if plaster is gypsum and selenite is gypsum, and sheet rock is gypsum, then how is the plaster orgonite any more effective than say a piece of drywall/sheet rock or a chunk of selenite? Please don't ban me from the forum    , I'm just trying to understand how it works.  



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by josh on Sun May 30, 2010 3:52 pm

I am reading from the plaster bag: calcium sulfate hemihydrate

: calcium carbonate

:crystalline silica

Thats it  

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by josh on Sun May 30, 2010 7:09 pm

As far as how it work, it is still a mystery to me, if you go on site of this German man: http://www.energiekegel.de/ maybe you can make sense of the language, it may have to do with the power of the full color spectrum on the molecular level, so this is what I know: I saw it, I liked it, I did it....and it worked.

Now for sure it does not work in the same way as the resin Orgonite, I feel strongly this is the next level up, and because of the testimonies of those ladies yesterday, I know I am correct.

The simplicity of those devices makes it most attractive....................not good to put in water though  , for that we must stick to the resin.

Yes I think it must be like sheet rock, unless it is a different composition for dry wall, I remember someone saying that plaster was selenite? 

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by Atma on Sun May 30, 2010 7:18 pm
This has interested me since I saw it posted on warriormatrix. I will give it a go soon to test it out myself. So does the plaster create pressure when cured on the crystals?? Guess HTML does'nt work here... how do we post pics Josh? Is it possible??


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by josh on Sun May 30, 2010 8:37 pm
Yes it is possible, being a brand new site we are still polishing everything, I am going to see the web person on Tuesday and hopefully that picture problem should be resolve.
As far as the pressure on the crystals, this piezoelectric effect is getting too much press, and I feel that it is way over rated, the way Orgonite work is this; 
It work just like a condenser: 2 pieces of metals with insulation in between, apply a charge, electrons get stuck/stored in between the metal within the insulator, in the condenser the metal is continuous and can be wired to receive and discharge, in the Orgonite the metal are totally self powered, receiving their charges from any EMFs in the surrendering area and sending back this EMF transformed into QI or life energy.
The metals in the condensers are a long strip, in the Orgonite they are small independent particles
The insulator in the condensers are a long strip of insulating material, in the Orgonite it is the resin that is acting as insulation
The crystals focus and amplify 

In the plaster, the jury is still out, with the little that I know I do not see how it work, but I must submit to the overwhelming results: it work!!
As with other devises, I have found that we can produce this life energy without the metal and without the resin.
Good luck with your experiments
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by Gifter on Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:49 am
Hi Josh
Wanted to try the plaster ,went to the hardware store ,4 lbs for $6.99 gosh that was high priced. Tried Wally World ,8 lbs for $5.88 now that was more like it.
Anyway was excited to get something made. Read the mixing ratio's, come up with this is simple 1 water 2 plaster. Came up with the amount I needed and started mixing up a batch.
To make a long story short ,when I came up with the pancake type thickness I was ready to pour, went to pour and it was already thickened up where it wouldn't pour so I added a little water to thin it out , and more water,and more water and still had to spoon it out into the mold , moved it around in the mold even adding more water to get it thin enough to add what I wanted into the matrix.
I made 3 different pours and my results were the same. Is their some secret on how to mix this stuff up without it going nuts on me???
I poured this Sunday afternoon and its still mushy ,looks like in a couple more days it might be ready to take out of the molds, if it hardens at all??
Need some pointers on how to mix this plaster stuff ??
For whatever its worth, I asked a very gifted person about the use of the plaster, answer was Great . The Gemstones,coils,crystals or whatever you put into the mix is what makes it work. That is why just plain wall board isn't a generator of energy by itself. And yes plaster is just selenite .

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Re: Plaster orgonite

by josh on Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:05 am
OK Gifter, what I have found with the plaster is that you must be fast, and I always add a little more water then what is called for, if the mix require one quart of water I will add one cup extra.
Mix it quickly, put it in the mold, halfway put some stones, pour the rest and add the rest of the stones. Do not wait, as soon as it is mix: pour it; I have had plenty of false start myself  AS a rule it seems to harden within 10 to 20 minutes, and there is also a bit of heat generated, but not that much.
I get my plaster from one of the two Home Depot or Lows, and I am paying $27 for 25 lb, I am certain that if I go to a construction supplier I will find it in 50lb bags for not much at all.
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by Gifter on Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:15 am
Thanks Josh
Will be much faster than before. So 8 lbs for $5.88 is a cheap price ( 24 lbs would be $17.64)( 32 lbs be $23.52).
So will what I made already,will it harden or is it all hopeless??
Thanks Again
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by josh on Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:47 am
No not hopeless, if you have put your stones in it, you can take your failed plaster and put it in a bucket of water, it will dissolve and you can salvage your stones, Yes you found a good price, I will look around for larger quantities, and see, but so fare you did good at wally mart
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by josh on Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:56 am
I just found this on line:

http://www.idealtruevalue.com/servlet/the-38762/Detail

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I Think there may be some hardware stores around here that would have that, $ 7.25 for 50 lb wow  

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Re: Plaster orgonite

by nepipemi on Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:23 am
What is the difference between plaster of Paris and interior finish plaster?
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by josh on Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:18 am
I think one may be finer than the other but I shall enquirer................I called the White House.... they had no idea  
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by josh on Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:39 am
Another one:

http://www.idealtruevalue.com/servlet/Categories
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by monsoon gecko on Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:14 pm
Yo Josh....what a buzz. ! A new technique that works...in fact PUMPS. !
Got plastered and made 3 Hhg's yesterday.
One in s/steel pyramid, large glass martini and cylinder plastic takeaway away container.
It was quite a wet mix...crystals sank to bottom...even thought it wouldn't harden.....poured 
off half cm of water that accumulated on top of moulds during hardening.
Sprayed silicon release in the pyramid and martini...all came out smoothly.Poured into another
glass and a ceramic bowl with no release agent and
they came out perfectly too.

The important thing here is , I can use all of my normal moulds safely...glass, silicone and s/steel !
Even the giant glass vase for a plaster Broadcaster.! 

I must share with you my energy sensitivity...Right fom the very first Tb;s , I could feel the orgone 
field. My best desciption is like a spiritual pressure to my forehead...third eye ?
I have made many devices since and each new one takes some getting used too. eg. Cb's ,standard
and induction type..114 and underground cloud buster UCB , peacemaker PM. The last 3, I discovered on
Etheric Research Forum. I couldn't go near the 114 for a couple of days....even brought first helicopter. !
Next was the Broadcaster and now Plaster Orgonite...I can't believe the energy given off by these
plaster Hhg's....very powerful orgone field...and I can make them anywhere ,anytime.

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Re: Plaster orgonite

by monsoon gecko on Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:44 pm
continued..

I used quite a few crystals and minerals...most from previous ebay purchases., mainly strung chip beads.
The list includes : lapis lazuli. sodalite, tourmaline, kyanite, ruby chips, mica flakes, tiger eye, amethyst, 
rose quartz .garnet, sugalite, hematite, forrest agate, and turquoise. Also , included was a chunky 1 inch +
smokey lemurian quartz point.

I have spent half a day hammering the rest of my stones.< of course I've Kept a few. >. This is for two reasons.
1. Apparently. smaller pieces and powdered work better . so now largest broken pieces 5mm.
2. I'll be making Hhg's with school students this week in my favourite teacup size glass moulds..actually old punchbowl set !
I want to preserve my resources. I know what kids are like...they'll want to use more than is necessary. so this way they are limited to a pinch or two of each sample.....unbelieveable...I'm actually looking forward to going to work..Ha ha ha .

Well the spiritual pressure is still there today, though not as intense...guess I'm getting used to this strong new orgone field ! !

Thankyou Josh for sharing this new technique......OUTSTANDING !

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Re: Plaster orgonite

by monsoon gecko on Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:48 pm
Oh , forgot to use copper powder...must remember to take to school....even stronger ? Ha..should be interesting !
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by josh on Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:37 am
Thank you Monsoon, this is a wonderful report, it will be interesting to see what the children will do, let us hope many people pick up on the idea of making cheap, easy and powerful Orgonite    
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by josh on Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:01 am
I am getting ready to make a cloud booster using a single 4 inch copper pipe in the middle, I will have to keep it under cover, though shellac woks nice on the plaster, I dont think it will work for too long in the elements
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by nepipemi on Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:34 pm
Oh god, this is awesome, MG! Thanks for the write up. 

Regarding your sensitivity, have you ever made or been around sugar orgonite? What does it feel like comparatively?

Also, Josh, I know might defeat a couple purposes of the plaster method, but what about coating the outside of the plaster CB with resin or epoxy to weatherproof it? 

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Re: Plaster orgonite

by josh on Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:20 pm
I shall try a coat of epoxy and see what happen
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by monsoon gecko on Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:02 pm
Hi Nepipemi...Never considered sugar orgonite,,,have read about it couple of times ,but info wasn't clear,
on construction and methods....closest I've been was munching on a toffee apple ! Ha ha

I have some brown and black oxides buried away somewhere from old pottery days.....these were used to paint,
colour, patterns on unfired pottery pieces....I'll take to school so kids can decorate there plaster Hhg's...should 
look great and add their own personal touch.

Shellac....natural substance ? From memory I used this to French polish a wooden jewelery box at school. Came out with glass
finish..got an A...but that was 40 odd years ago. Is this the stuff that comes in flakes and you dissolve with something ?
Can,t remember . How many coats? Also , how long after making does plaster take to be dry enough to shellac ?
The paper my Hhg's are sitting on still seems damp. I have 2 days with students so looks like not enough time to dry, 
paint and shellac .

More info appreciated... Thanks

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Re: Plaster orgonite

by josh on Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:36 pm
Hello MG
The shellac drys in a minute, the first coat will disappear quickly in the dried plaster, and to see the shine you will have to coat it about thee times.

The shellac is natural, it is made with bugs  , I like it since it dry so fast, it will come in different weight, called 30 lb or 40 lb cut, and this has to do with the amount of dissolved bug material in a solvent, I have not seen it in powder form to be dissolved, all I can get is the already prepared mixture.

So You should be able to get the children to use it, also if it is hot where you are, by the time you finish the second side of your HHG, the first one will be dry, so basically you can shellac the whole device and keep on going for a second coat without stoping.
I am most interested in what the children will say    
IMPORTANT: after you use brushes with shellac, it will clean spotless with ammonia, even if you forget a brush and do it the day after
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by josh on Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:57 pm
Forgot; depending on the size of your plaster pieces the drying time will vary , some of the larger one : cone 8 inches in bottom 3 inches at the top and 18 inches tall will take a week to dry before shellac, an HHG may take a day or two depending how hot the environement. this may be the only draw back with the plaster, you can demold them rather quickly (much quicker than resin), but it will stay moist for a while, but the results in the quality of the energies is worth the wait  

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by monsoon gecko on Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:59 am
Thanks for info Josh,
Picked up some orange shellac flakes and mineral turpentine < I think..left at school >..has
instructions,,,will find out tomorrow.

Today was great. Students responsive. They are quite energy sensitive having played with
quartz, tourmaline and shiva stones etc....can operate pendulum and divine water...I gifted them 
pocket orgonites last Christmas.
So we're going to make plaster orgonite today......eyes lit up . ha
.ground rules set , each student collected 3 pieces each
of 19 samples in takeaway containers , plus a small hermiker quartz. 
The Hhg moulds are teacup size ,old solid glass...a couple of old punchbowl sets.
The extras from previous list were : shungite, adventurine, quartz chips , red coral and
I remembered the copper powder..each batch of plaster had t/spoon .

So after a demo, students made and mainly poured their own in groups of 4. Had to help
couple of times.....They came out very smooth and students reported feeling energy while holding.
Painting tomorrow...Should be interesting.. might try some diff, moulds. 
S
Don't think will be dry enough to shellac,..we'll see.

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Re: Plaster orgonite

by monsoon gecko on Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:49 pm
So.. arrive at school next day..staff seem happy as usual,
but noted higher energy...the students were zooming around 
playing happily together....not your normal layed back, slow 
start morning !
Class work surprised me as All students participated with
enthusiasm. The day flew past and they went home smiling and 
chatting.... WOW..impressive.
This was a real eye opener.....the school is already well gifted
with Tb's in classrooms, office and buried in gardens.....but 
today there was a much higher energy factor that stood out.

The PlasterOrgonite was still damp a day later,,we played with 
them for a while...most confirmed feeling energy while held..
couple didn't.. I demonstrated oxide painting...tricky and fiddley.
No room for error as oxide soaked in straight away and smudged
on touch....the shellac flakes refused to dissolve. metho, not turps..!
So we made more plaster orgonite.! ! ha ha

In fact, I really wanted to trial my silicone moulds...trays of flat top
pyramids, hearts and stars.Tb size. Students loved collecting the samples
again and proficiantly made and poured the plaster with the small 
amount of copper powder. 
They came out beautifully....smooth as..with a hint of coloured
minerals showing through.
So school holidays coming up.. won't see them till next term.

I wonder if their homes will glow as much as the school did ?

Next trial...a large Plaster Broadcaster.....no bucket of water.!
Enjoy.

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Re: Plaster orgonite

by monsoon gecko on Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:36 am
Here,s some photos.....if they come out !!

[url=https://web.archive.org/web/20101221040649/http://s814.photobucket.com/albums/zz63/monsoongecko/Plaster Orgonite Trials/]http://s814.photobucket.com/albums/zz63 ... %20Trials/[/url]

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Re: Plaster orgonite

by josh on Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:51 am
Hey MG, this is good, how do you manage teaching about Orgonite in a school, I thought for sure this would never be allowed, this is wonderful indeed, those kids will never forget.
I wanted to share something here for experiment: On a long extension cord, put and wrap a device at the beginning of the electric cord and 10 or 15 feet further do the same,
So you will have on the same cord TWO devices 10 to 15 feet ( 3 1/2 to 4 meters) apart, I have been doing that and I think it is more effective in broadcasting.
Plaster or resin no mater

male plug_________X__________________________________X__________female side
-------------------- device-----------10/15 feet-----------------device
This is the one-two punch  
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by nepipemi on Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:07 am
Josh, 
next you will be wanting us to make a flexible rubber orgonite paint to coat the entirety of the electric cord! 

Hey, wait a minute!   

Does silicone qualify as a chemically organic substance?

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Re: Plaster orgonite

by josh on Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:49 pm
Hummmmm, now that you mention it......
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by monsoon gecko on Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:40 pm
Plaster Orgonite Broadcaster

Here.s my photobucket essay....Enjoy
Oh...do I need as much quartz as in resin model ?
My guess is......can't hurt...especially considering this size.
Comments appreciated.

[url=https://web.archive.org/web/20101221040649/http://s814.photobucket.com/albums/zz63/monsoongecko/Plaster Broadcaster Trial/]http://s814.photobucket.com/albums/zz63 ... r%20Trial/[/url]

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Re: Plaster orgonite

by josh on Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:38 pm
MG I think you need as much 'crystal powder' for the plaster, I know That is what I do and it seems to work well.

Here a few more pictures
Here is 'cake'  



Here is a large cone HHG






Here is the table center piece, two cake model 





More coming soon
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by josh on Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:28 pm
Alright people, this is the translated link from the German to English, about the gentleman making Plaster "orgonite"

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_ur ... =Translate

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Re: Plaster orgonite

by Spirit Walker on Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:51 pm
Aho Brother Josh!! Thank you for guiding me to this new matrix for the creation of energy toys! After viewing the German website, I instantly fell in love with the energy they were producing.

Today after running around with kids, I finally checked sources for plaster, found my Home Depot had a 20lb bag for 16 bucks, so bought that a some shellac to finish with when dried. I think I messed up on the first one, the glass I used appeared to be cylindrical, but now I'm thinking the lip slightly curves in, so will see soon! LOL Worse case I brake this glass to get it out. I did spray and smear Pam on inside of glass prior to pouring in mix.

I made more mix than needed, so scrambled and filled a large coffee mug and finally a paper cup, 4oz I think. That last I took one of my oldest muffins and filled bottom of cup first, slide muffin in and pressed down until it surged up and over it, then filled more till ran out. 

I got creative on the mix itself. The plaster got mixed with some red pepper and lots of cinnamon, with a dash of garlic. Also one cap full of crushed/powder mixed crystals. Water came from charged water reservoir I have accumulated from various forms of natural water charging, and one mixed with plaster, I discovered I put too much water in... OOPS. Was way to watery. Threw in pinch of magnesium oil and stirred, added more fresh plaster and stirred, after pouring into mold and adding variety of small gems, garnet, green adventurine, and peridot, with quartz crystal (4) surrounding a cut bamboo length in middle. Added more plaster to cover top of bamboo, then added more of the above gems, then covered them with more plaster. 

I put in front of my room air cleaner that has a Himalayan Salt Crystal Lamp on top, and produces it's own ion mix to clean the air, so as they sat in front of that, the last ingredient was a few drops to each of Nag Champa oil. Yum! 

They appear to all be dry, will wait till tomorrow to see about removing one. Room smells great. One in glass appears to have a mocha color to it, very nice. 

I got a lot more plaster and water out the wha zoo, so my father's day gift will be making some with kids tomorrow afternoon. I'm going to pull out the brass heart and use that! Maybe the big dolphin for myself... 

Aho!

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Re: Plaster orgonite

by Spirit Walker on Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:17 am
That is without a doubt, the most beautiful life force energy harmonizing art piece I have ever seen!!!! WOW!!!! Incredible, truly! I love it! Please ask the dear Lady to make many more!!!! You must go buy much more plaster and paint for her!!!! I am looking for bigger mold later this day, and will buy more plaster and paint too! That piece just sings love, peace, tranquility, and joy, in so many direct and indirect ways. I could just stare at it for hours....

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Re: Plaster orgonite

by josh on Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:20 am
The mold come from Michael the art store, i think it was about $20
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by monsoon gecko on Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:49 pm
Great piece, love the earth ,ocean ,sky balance. Great colours. Did the paint soak in like shellac 
and what sort of paint to use ? Surely you can't wrap power cord now and cover over now !
Very interested to know what sort of Bovis reading for a piece this size. Painted ......and wrapped
in power cord.
Keep 'em coming....want to see the next one ..ha
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by josh on Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:46 pm
Hi MG, this is the " painter" of the cone  I used non metallic acrylic paint as well as pigments and mica in glue for shine and interesting effects...No it did not sink in the plaster but stayed on the surface. This piece is to " sing" by itself, because of the colours....no need for an electric cord.  We have a cone of 27" wrapped with a long cord (20 times). It seems that colouring the pieces gives it a boost because colours have their own frequencies that add up to the plaster and whatever is in there with it.
So if you and/or your students will paint their Plasterite pieces, see/feel what will happen . Have fun and I will post the other sides of that cone and other pieces soon. 

OK my turn... Aright Steve give us a Bovis reading, I promise I will not ban you for that    , My lady has gotten the 'bug' for the Plasterite and the decorating, so today we got bunches of molds and 75 pound of plaster  , I know what I will be doing tomorrow ha ha
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by Steve on Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:57 pm
I'm getting 324,000 on this one Josh. Even more important than the Bovis energy, the frequency of this one is very high. Can you feel the field of this piece reaching out? I get about 17ft or so.

Blessings
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by josh on Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:35 pm
Thank you Steve, when are you going to make your own   

here are the rest of the cone faces  






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Re: Plaster orgonite

by nepipemi on Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:45 pm
 holy cow! That is BEAUTIFUL! NICE, NICE, NICE! 

 
 

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Re: Plaster orgonite

by sacred on Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:51 pm
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by monsoon gecko on Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:19 am
Awsome alright ! The land section I find mesmurising , great pattern of warm colours.
Looks great from all directions....
Wow... that Bovis reading puts it higher than a nano power wand and a bit over a CB..
very encouraging........ That means my large pieces must kick ass too...within reason.
So , by adding power cord wrapping,,,say 7 or more turns , the Bovis reading would jump ?
Correct ? Esp. with its function on the power grid ?

Thanks guys for input.. Just putting 2 + 2 together,

Bring on next one !
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by josh on Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:28 pm
Steve can you answer MG' s question?? This is a powered plasterite cone, the mass of which is about 3 times the painted cone....
See what you get. Thanks




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Re: Plaster orgonite
by josh on Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:34 am
Thank you Tony
This is quite a mix a look like a recipe for something to eat, it reminded me that in the early days of Orgonite Don Croft would put hot pepper in his Orgonite, so as a good follower I did as well, he may still do it for all I know.
Yesterday I also poured three devices, one of them is a safety street cone (big red thing) and this took one 25 lb bags, and also two very beautiful large and tall glass vases, both of them were filled with cracks within minutes of filling with the Plaster, I do not know why, may be very cheap glass, anyway both also took one 25 lb bags, I de molded the rubber cone late last night, and I will do the glass in the next hour
I shall take pictures and post  
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Re: Plaster orgonite
by josh on Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:33 pm
Here are some new pictures of yesterday's pouring of cones and some other older " creations"  

The large cones are 27" tall












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Re: Plaster orgonite
by orgone donor on Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:51 am
All the plaster pics look really great. Am going to try some plaster orgone when my crystals arrive. (also the plaster appeals more to my budget !!) 

Question: will painting the plaster piece have an effect on the energy? I was thinking they would look really cool painted with sparkly rainbow coloured paints, but if the energy is optimal without paint, I will leave them be. 

Also, do you still put in main quartz like with resin orgonite, with the positive terminated end pointing upwards? 

One more: I don't have any copper powder yet, would it be okay to mix in some fine bronze shavings in the plaster mix instead? .


PS. My first ever resin orgonite TBs are curing right now. the journey has begun. 
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Re: Plaster orgonite
by monsoon gecko on Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:28 am
Good one Orgone Donor....that's excellent news, just keep making more....you'll
be surprised at how quickly they get used up gifting...friends , places , towers,
swarf suppiers, lecturers....ha, ha ..etc. 
Questions,,,not sure.. I like an upright quartz in the middle, but at school, kids just
throw in a little hermiker...still seems to work ok.
Apparently , works without metal powder too...will leave those up to Josh to answer.

Let the gifting begin....enjoy !
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Re: Plaster orgonite Ice Test
by josh on Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:45 pm
Here are the photographic results of the Ice Test with Plasterite after 12 hours in the freezer last night as well as pictures of frozen water in control jar without Plasterite

The ice cone formation is obvious....as well as the tip rising on top.....with the Plasterite covered jar 











Ordinary " landscape" of frozen water in the control jar after 12 hours in the freezer.....



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Re: Plaster orgonite
by josh on Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:13 pm
The plasterite that I make will not stay as shown my lady has already decided to paint them and have landscape pictures on them so yes paint them how ever you want, but no metallic paint.
AS far as the metal when I use some in it is a small amount such as a pinch of copper powder for a gallon volume, but lately I have not put any to see what would happen.
There is something of worth that was told me by Spirit Walker, if we can verify this it would show why Plasterite is working; what he said was that we probably have a gazillion microscopic air bubbles in the Plasterite, and that would translate into an infinite amount of resonant cavities      
That is big, we shall see, I will have to break a piece and look with a microscope, I think I have one that I can hook up to my computer, given to me by a long ago friend
As soon as we have painted pieces I shall post them
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Re: Plaster orgonite
by Spirit Walker on Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:12 am
I've now got about 10 pieces made from the plaster, and OH MY GOD, I love them!!!!!  I was handling my 1st attempt last night to check on the shellac job I did on it the night before (needs more, sucked it right into the plaster, can't even tell there is shellac on it!), and just holding it and feeling it's energy, I burst out giggling! LOL A very high, joyous energy is coming out of that little puppy!!! By palming (meaning using my palm as a sensor to measure the energy output), I could define a field extending almost 12 feet from it, and this piece was made in a small glass tumbler, so it is not big. The more I became sensitized to the energy, the more uplifted I felt from being inundated with it!!

Still lots of playing to do this weekend with making more, the pieces my kids made came out fantastic as well, especially the large dolphin mold that my daughter used!!! She has some paint to decorate it as well, and is planning on many more pieces now. The blessing for me in this is that my daughter has been challenged with serious emotional issues over the last few years, and seeing her respond to the energy these creations produce is very heart warming and encouraging to me as her father. I truly believe that LOVE can manifest in a myriad of ways, and that working with these diverse elements to create/attract/broadcast Life Force Energy is a sacred and joyous undertaking.

AHO!!

Tony
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Re: Plaster orgonite
by josh on Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:10 pm
This Plasterite cone got the " treatment" from my lady  







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Re: Plaster orgonite
by Steve on Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:09 pm
Wow! That piece should be in an art gallery. Nice Work!

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Re: Plaster orgonite

by josh on Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:18 pm
    That piece is 18" tall and sings very nicely, next come the 27" will shall see what she will do with it, Steve this is so easy make some and see how it feel, guaranty you will like it.....and the way it broadcast      
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by Steve on Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:35 pm
Hi MG, I get about a 26% increase in power with the piece wrapped with elec cord.

Josh I'm getting about 440,000 on that one. The main thing is these pieces are feeding the orgone back into the grid.

Peace
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by josh on Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:37 pm
Steve, my lady is asking; if she color that large piece will the energy rise significantly
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by Steve on Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:22 pm
I'm getting that the energy stays about the same but the freq could change based on color choice. 
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by monsoon gecko on Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:50 am
Yo...Steve, this is just great information...great confirmation boost
for experimenters....I'll be making more plaster broadcasters.....
that's for sure,,, Thanks

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Re: Plaster orgonite

by MariaT on Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:22 pm
Hi Josh... thanks for a fascinating thread. I'm a new member who found your site a couple of days ago and became enthralled by plasterite. I've only been making orgonite since August 2009 and although I still have lots to learn, I'm passionate about it.

I live in Cape Town and had intended making an orgonite CB for an event scheduled for 25 July, the Golden Pyramid of Peace. However, I'm having difficulty in finding DT crystals of the correct size. A trip to my normal supplier a few days ago proved to be unsuccessful, as did enquiries from other local suppliers.

I've now decided to make a plasterite cone instead for the event! Thanks to you. 

So yesterday I collected plaster of paris and some oxide. Can't find copper powder yet in small quantities (I was quoted R666 - about $88 - for 1kg!!). Is it OK to use copper sulphate instead? I've decided to use my newly acquired stainless steel pyramid mould which I've only used twice - and both orgonite pieces cracked horribly! It just generates too much heat, lol. The pyramid mould is only about 100mm high, though. I'm a bit rushed for time right now (preparing for 2 holistic fairs over the next 10 days) but I'd like to find a long cone mould as soon as possible.

So... once again thank you for this forum, and thanks to all members that have contributed.


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Just a couple of the latest test casts from various "molds"... 
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by Spirit Walker on Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:58 pm
I just handed these individually to my daughter after taking the photos, and her expressions and comments were priceless. Starting with smallest, her eyes got huge and she immediately said shocks in her hand. With second bowl piece, a vibration and a look of confusion. The third largest, amazement, and she gushed and blushed, said Wow. hole body got warm.  Will share mix ingredients, with Josh's permission, later to any who wish... All pieces are unusually "cold" when holding, almost like putting your hand against a cool marble wall at a fancy hotel. The largest piece is the coldest, done right chilly to hold. I stacked them from smallest to largest, and there was 3 loud knocks on the wall immediately after ward, within a split second, right next to me on the bed. I jumped. Took the top piece off, felt the air pressure in room change. Put it back on, heard the 3 knocks again!!! I tried to take a picture of it, my camera batteries went dead. Replaced them, snapped the pic, camera shut off! Retried four times, same thing happened. Fifth time checked battery level, almost exhausted. New batteries out of the pack...  Too funny. So no pics of stack, but I promise it was entertaining!

Aho!

Tony
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by josh on Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:29 pm
Hello Maria T
Here come the rescue  ., we have been experimenting with different ingredients for the Plasterite in going further into simplifying the mixture, so here we are with a new formula that according to some very sensitive people is outstanding: mix your plaster with some beach sand, the proportions are in volume 4 liters of plaster for 350ml of sand. If your sand comes from a beautiful Cape Town beach nothing else to do If you have to buy your sand which would probably be washed then you will have to add some unrefined sea salt  to dissolve in the water you will use for the plaster. You might want to have 4lb of salt for 25 lb of plaster . You may add any crystals you want according to what you want to achieve with your piece for this particular event. Any shape will do (does not have to be a pyramid, actually better if not - old energy -). We are using all sorts of conical molds/glasses, vases, cooking molds, cake molds. We have posted all sorts of different shape and form for you to look at  viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=30

And this is what we have found to work the best for releasing the devices from the molds: wax your molds with just any car wax, then spray with silicon or any professional release agent (made with parafin), we have used a product call Pam (canola oil...not good) and does not result in the smooth surface, do not be fooled by this so ordinary plaster stuff it really works regardless what any pajama people are saying
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by josh on Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:48 pm
Please Tony, share with everyone say it the way it is   I promess you will not be banned   
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by Spirit Walker on Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:11 pm
If you insist... LOL  Aho Brother!!! 

So the pictured new mix is sans any crushed metal or crushed crystal. New mix is plaster, charged water (3 minutes in blender on high, w/rare earth mags opposite each other, source bottled spring water), store bought sand (from Michaels Craft), some sea salt, and clear quartz crystal in center of each piece, surrounded by four smaller quartz crystals in each direction, all facing same direction, on same center level, and pinches of several powdered resins from myrrh, frankincense, amber, and dragons blood. All to boost protection and well being. Tap water, here in Maryland, turns yellowish color after 3 minutes in blender, and changed the color of my 1st and 2nd batches. Last batch was bottled spring water spun up, no color change but "thickness" did alter it seemed. Mixing all together was a delightful mess, still have stains on carpet to clean up. Now that I've started to using a very fine grade to sand down the uneven bottoms, I've discovered even more ways to get plaster on everything I own! LOL  OH Well. Big Note: This is far more than Josh is putting in his right now, please reference his mix for precise and proper go of it. Mine have a very marbled look to them, son said it looked like concrete with marble thrown in to... 

Plan to have all 3 kids this weekend helping with 5th batch, tomorrow night will do 4th. Next time I see one of those plastic cones in a parking lot.....  I really want something huge and heavy...  Can't help it, will wrap 144 feet of electrical extension cord and plug in my salt lamp, then just smile and smile.... If my youngest daughter gets as excited as my other two children, I'll get her to make her own too, to take with her back home. Note to self, make some for "that" home too!  Not sure if the sudden change in weather to clear blue skies and almost cool temps is due to anything I made, but it sure does feel better now that the last batch is "live".... :0

Aho!

Tony

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Re: Plaster orgonite

by MariaT on Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:39 am
josh wrote:Hello Maria T
Here come the rescue  ., we have been experimenting with different ingredients for the Plasterite in going further into simplifying the mixture, so here we are with a new formula that according to some very sensitive people is outstanding: mix your plaster with some beach sand, the proportions are in volume 4 liters of plaster for 350ml of sand. If your sand comes from a beautiful Cape Town beach nothing else to do If you have to buy your sand which would probably be washed then you will have to add some unrefined sea salt  to dissolve in the water you will use for the plaster. You might want to have 4lb of salt for 25 lb of plaster . You may add any crystals you want according to what you want to achieve with your piece for this particular event. Any shape will do (does not have to be a pyramid, actually better if not - old energy -). We are using all sorts of conical molds/glasses, vases, cooking molds, cake molds. We have posted all sorts of different shape and form for you to look at  viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=30

And this is what we have found to work the best for releasing the devices from the molds: wax your molds with just any car wax, then spray with silicon or any professional release agent (made with parafin), we have used a product call Pam (canola oil...not good) and does not result in the smooth surface, do not be fooled by this so ordinary plaster stuff it really works regardless what any pajama people are saying
j



Josh, you are a star! I'll give it a go. For ease of calculation I'll mix 1 part sand (co-incidentally I have some Cape Town beach sand!) to 11 parts of plaster. I've just got back from collecting some copper dust from a woman who bronzes items, so I'll add a pinch of that together with the 5 quartz crystals and some chips of other crystals. 

I'll let you know how it turns out.


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Re: Plaster orgonite

by nepenthe on Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:22 pm
Hi Josh thanks for starting this great topic. I'm getting ready to go shopping for the ingredients of my first attempt at making orgonite, (never made the resin, so this is a real first) and going down your list - apart from the large crystal, how much crushed crystal does one need, or can it be eliminated? 
And is copper powder required - how much in proportion to the mold? Don't know any machine shops near me where I can get these, can you buy them at a hardware shop or craft shop - (if I don't want to go online, getting impatient). If I can't get powder, can I use something else?
And what are oxides, sorry, these are strictly orgonite for dummies questions. 

Isabelle

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Re: Plaster orgonite

by josh on Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:20 pm
Isabelle As soon as you make a few of these you will be an expert  
Alright, for the regular Orgonite:
Two kind of matrix, one is the polyester resin, and the other is epoxy resin, one (the polyester smell terrible and is toxic) the second (epoxy) do not smell
The price of the two is about the same from US composites, except for the really inexpensive polyester resin that is roughly $25 per gal. as the other polyesters and epoxy are in the same price range 34 to 38 per gallon, when you buy a greater quantity they wont charge you as much, I just got 10 gal of epoxy : one to one ratio thick epoxy#150 for $278, that makes it $27 per gallon, if you get only one gallon it will cost you $38, so considering all factors, I rather use the epoxy.

For the metals you have many choices, but the smaller the better, any oxides will work especially well, but at this point you must use crushed crystal for thorough dispersion, otherwise a single block crystal is not going to give you the full strength within the device, to get the oxide really cheap go there:

http://www.ecrater.com/p/3572285/30-lb- ... xide-fe3o4
This is the place where you will find the iron oxide at $1 per pound, and these are the best prices, you can mix with it some metal shavings, no problem, with or without.
If you are going to do only with the powder, one thing to remember: you will not need that voluminous of a device because with the powder it is quite strong.
For the proportions, this is what I do, say I am going to make a few pendants; in a small container, such as an old yogurt container, you will put 1/2 a cup to 3/4 cup of resin (mixed) so if you use a one to one ratio of epoxy, you would put in 1/4 cup of one and 1/4 cup of the other, mix them really good before you put in anything else
Then ad your oxide and your crushed crystals one to one: one Tbsp of oxide, one Tbsp of crushed crystals....two of oxide, two of crystal.... three of oxide....... in other words, equal amount of each, when the mixture is thick and a little difficult to stir, this is when you pour it in the molds.

For mold to make nice pendants you can use the mini muffin molds, there is 24 small muffins hole in it, so you can pour (with a 1/2 cup resin) about 6, do not fill them or they may be too thick to have hanging around your neck.
When you do devices with epoxy it is good to always have another container ready to receive your extra resin, like a large cone, and after awhile it will be all filled up then you have another device without wasting anything.
Are you OK with what to do for lubricating your mold, if not let me know and we shall help with it
If you can get silicon molds they are the best since you do not have to lubricate them
Good luck, please ask questions before you get in trouble   
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by nepenthe on Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:21 am
Thanks for the crash course Josh. I'm planning to start very small so as to save cost and minimize epic failures....  

I checked out US Composite and the price of epoxy 1:1 #150 is $64.50 for a single gallon kit and $498 for 10 gallons, quite expensive. Did you buy from them direct?

I got most of your directions but can you elaborate a bit on the following? 
josh wrote:you will put 1/2 a cup to 3/4 cup of resin (mixed) so if you use a one to one ratio of epoxy, you would put in 1/4 cup of one and 1/4 cup of the other, mix them really good before you put in anything else
Then ad your oxide and your crushed crystals one to one: one Tbsp of oxide, one Tbsp of crushed crystals....two of oxide, two of crystal.... three of oxide....... in other words, equal amount of each, when the mixture is thick and a little difficult to stir, this is when you pour it in the molds.
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Not sure what you mean by "one to one ratio of epoxy". Are you describing the 1:1 as in resin:hardener mix? or a layering process, say 1/4 cup of resin/hardener+oxide to 1/4 cup of resin/hardener+crushed crystals, then when they start to thicken, pouring both in the mold one at a time?

This may sound nutty but I was thinking of making muffin size regular orgonite with the epoxy and another set using separate muffin molds for the plaster version since the hardening time is different. And hopefully be able to compare the vibes of epoxy to plaster. Do I use the same proportion of crushed crystal, metal shavings, and oxides for the plaster orgonite as for the epoxy one?

Isabelle

BTW, I have a friend who was given a TB cast-off by a local maker which gave him one of the worst nightmares of his life and has been very suspicious of orgonite ever since. The thing looked harmless enough but I guess it was a very bad mix. Yikes. [/size]
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by nepipemi on Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:36 am
Hi Isabelle, 
Welcome!

At US Composites, you can use the EB polyester resin which is cheaper. It is a brownish green resin. By the time you pay shipping on 1 gallon, you could have paid the same amount at Autozone or Walmart for their Bondo brand resin. They work just the same but the EB resin is a bit higher quality meaning a touch easier to work with. With poly resin, you use a liquid MEKP catalyst that is measured in drops. 

Josh has also had good luck with epoxy which is what he was describing. The catalyst for epoxy is a thick liquid and mixes in like a 1:2 ratio or something like that. He's the expert there. 

This may sound nutty but I was thinking of making muffin size regular orgonite with the epoxy and another set using separate muffin molds for the plaster version since the hardening time is different. And hopefully be able to compare the vibes of epoxy to plaster.
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I think this is a stellar idea. The plaster concept is relatively new and it is exciting to hear people's response in a side by side comparison. 

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BTW, I have a friend who was given a TB cast-off by a local maker which gave him one of the worst nightmares of his life and has been very suspicious of orgonite ever since. The thing looked harmless enough but I guess it was a very bad mix. Yikes. 
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It is possible that it wasn't bad orgonite but that he had not acclimated to the piece yet. 

Best regards to you!
Nepi[/size]
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Re: Plaster orgonite

by josh on Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:21 am
Hello Nepi good morning and good morning Isabelle
The price that you have looked at is correct except that when it quoted the price for one gallon; it is one gallon of each, hardener and epoxy, so you would get 2 gallons for that price, the same for the 10 gal deal, you would get 20 gallons for that price ($ 498), this is the kind of epoxy where the amount of hardener and epoxy are the same.
Mixing the epoxy, measure equal amount of hardener and epoxy (one to one ratio) 
Mix thoroughly
Ad your oxide and crushed crystals
When it is thick pour it in the molds
One of the benefit that I find with this (one to one thick epoxy 150) is that it gives me a long time to work, because according to the temperature it will take 8 to 12 hours to harden, Some of the polyester resin will harden within a half hour
For the plaster you use only some crushed crystal, plaster and water, no metal ( or just a pinch of copper powder but not no necessary)and it will harden within a half hour
For the Orgonite you use resin, metal and crystal
Hope this is of help
josh

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Re: Plaster orgonite

by sacred on Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:44 pm
now for another newbie's question ... are these charged after they're made, or is it the combo of what they're made of that has the charge?


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